The Second Law of Thermodynamics - Holistic Reasoning and Generalization: It Can Be Challenged, But Cannot Be Violated!
Entropy can be decreased, but cannot be destroyed!Exploring the Second Law of Thermodynamics (Editor: M. Kostic)
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The 2nd Law is not about disorder and probability per se (or any other math or physics 'tools' per se used to describe it), but about spontaneous, forced-tendency (natural process-forcing displacement) of mass-energy redistribution in certain, irreversible direction (process driving force), from higher to lower energy-potential (mass-energy density in space). Spontaneity implies forced-directionality and in turn irreversibility. No spontaneous, irreversible process could ever be completely reversed or undone. For example,
the driving force for life on Earth is the irreversible dissipation of energy from the Sun.
Challenges
to the Second Law Challengers:
The 'challengers' need to demonstrate and quantify destruction of entropy to
challenge the universal validity of the Second Law. It has been reasoned and
thus proven
here that destruction of entropy, i.e., violation of the Second Law, is
against the forced tendency of natural processes and thus impossible, leaving 'No
Hope' for the challengers. After all, the 'Wishful
Maxwell's Demon' could not be realized since 1867. [See
also my
Comments on Arrow of Time and
Common Law of Physics]
Elusive Nature of Entropy |
A more general statement of the 2nd Law should be that,
A consequence of irreversible entropy generation, always and at any scale in general, is a simple special case that entropy is always increased within an isolated system and the universe due to entropy generation, not the other way around. The Second Law of Thermodynamics is universal and valid without exceptions: in closed and open systems, in equilibrium and non-equilibrium, in inanimate and animate systems -- that is, in all space and time scales useful energy is dissipated in heat and entropy is generated. |
It is critically important to differentiate 'entropy change' (decrease or increase) from 'entropy generation or production': The overall entropy increase, within all interacting systems, due to entropy generation, should not be confused with local entropy change that could increase or decrease due to entropy transfer. Entropy may be reduced locally when transferred from a system, but cannot be destroyed by any means, and is always increased within isolated, i.e., all interacting systems, and thus within the universe, due to entropy generation. True entropy is always thermal and universal, since energy is always exchanged in all processes and always dissipated in heat thus generating entropy, and there is no way to destroy entropy.
Carnot's Reflections * Clausius Heat * Nature of Entropy * Nature of Thermal and Mechanical Energy |
The Second Law of Thermodynamics (2nd Law) has proved time and again to be universal and valid without exceptions: in closed and open systems, in equilibrium and non-equilibrium, in inanimate and animate systems -- that is, in all space and time scales. All processes or changes are caused by forced energy transfers where part of useful energy (work potential) is always dissipated to thermal heat accompanied with entropy generation or production, in addition to any entropy transfer with heat transfer. Only in limit, no entropy generation within ideal reversible processes, where entropy may be transferred and thus conserved, since there is no entropy generation at any space and time scales. However, all real interactions and processes have to be directional (except at equilibrium) and thus at least infinitesimally irreversible with commensurate entropy generation. Note also that "Arrow of Time" is supposed to be a general concept independent from a clock design or an "observer personal perception," the way Thermodynamic temperature is independent of a thermometer design, or the light speed is independent of an observer speed. The time and entropy are being always irreversibly generated and over-all irreversibly increased. Therefore, the Thermodynamic Arrow of Time, i.e., irreversibility, thus directionality of all processes with entropy generation without exception, may be the answer to "Where Does Our Arrow Of Time Come From? [by Ethan Siegal]." See my related comment: It is premature to make any definitive conclusion about the two before their correlation is well established. |
As the fundamental laws of nature and Thermodynamics are expended from simple systems in physics and chemistry, to different space and time scales and to much more complex systems in biology, life and intelligent processes, there are more challenges to be comprehended and understood. For example, on microscopic scale, Thermodynamics becomes Mechanics or Dynamics (i.e., Molecular Dynamics) and the macroscopic, Thermodynamic Laws are not needed nor apply. See my related comments on confusing and misleading article, "The Common Sense Law of Physics: Entropy, Evolution, and Open Systems" by Granville Sewell.
The mass-energy flows at any scale have been, do, and will always and everywhere dissipate energy and generate entropy, as stated by the Second Law, i.e., on the expense of internal and/or surrounding/boundary systems' non-equilibrium. It may appear that the created order or non-equilibrium structures are self-organizing from nowhere, from within an equilibrium (thus violating the Second Law), due to the lack of proper observations and 'accounting' of all mass-energy flows, the latter maybe in 'stealth' form or undetected rate at our state of technology and comprehension, as the science history has taught us many times (see Challenges to the Second Law Challengers). After all, we have to recognize that natural processes do not obey any law we have defined, but the other way around, our laws describe the natural processes within their limits and simplifications, however, the cause-and-effect, fundamental laws of Thermodynamics are so primitive and appear to be valid without exception, thus universal!
"Nothing occurs locally, nor globally in the universe, without mass-energy exchange/conversion and entropy production. It is crystal-clear (to me) that all confusions related to the far-reaching fundamental Laws of Thermodynamics, and especially the Second Law (Abstract-CiteSeerX), are due to the lack of their genuine and subtle comprehension." > Sadi Carnot's Reflections <*> Clausius Theory of Heat < Elusive Nature of Entropy * The Feynman Lectures on Physics Force or Forcing is a process of exchanging useful-energy (directional, forced mass-energy displacement) with net-zero exchange at forced equilibrium. The Second Law provides conditions and limits for process forcing (energy exchange direction and limit). The miracles are until they are comprehended and understood. > Perpetual Motion Machines (PMMs) and The Fundamental Laws of Thermodynamics and Nature*Presentations*Nature of Thermal and Mechanical Energy Transfer*Reflections and Thermodynamic probability p=W (Wahrscheinlichkeit, the German word for probability)
Definition of The 2nd Law: The useful-energy (non-equilibrium work potential) cannot be created from within equilibrium alone or otherwise, it only can be transferred between systems (ideally conserved) and irreversibly dissipated towards equilibrium into thermal energy thus generating entropy. Therefore, entropy is transferred and can be reduced (locally) but cannot be destroyed (anywhere): entropy is always and everywhere (locally and integrally) generated or produced.* dS=dStr+dSgen=dQrev/Tb + dWloss/Tdiss *Irr. Cycle Work Loss*IrRev.Eq. Abstract>Harvard & FULL paper* Entropy & the 2nd Law Special Issue-PDF>(http://goo.gl/YRVCq) in NIU Today: Kostic named Guest-Editor of Entropy journal (png)>&2T M. Kostic, Challenges to the Second Law Challengers, Limits to the Second Law of Thermodynamics (Abstracts), AAAS Pacific Division 97th Annual Meeting, University of San Diego, San Diego, CA, June 14-17, 2016 | |
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To 'scoop' the useful-energy (for use or storage) require forcing by transferring the useful-energy from elsewhere or even more since in part it will be dissipated (converted) into thermal energy with generation of entropy. It cannot be 'scooped' from within an equilibrium alone nor obtained more than transferred, thus resulting in impossible entropy destruction (i.e., a wishful process without due forcing). Violating the 2nd Law is the same as lifting more weight than appropriate with the mechanical advantage lever or superseding thermal (Carnot) advantage, i.e., any energy advantage device: the useful-energy or work-potential (non-equilibrium) cannot be created but only transferred between, with dissipation (thus partially or fully lost with entropy generation within interacting system/s), and only in ideal limit conserved.* Self-generation of non-equilibrium (work potential), from within an equilibrium or beyond its transfer locally, will amount to self-forcing from nowhere, like self-compression without boundary work transfer (a wishful, boundary self-forcing). A process forcing require transfer of non-equilibrium (the two are cause-and effect, force-flux phenomena) which ideally could be conserved, but is always accompanied with dissipation regardless of the amount (heat & entropy generation, i.e., conversion of other energy types to thermal energy).
Entropy cannot be destroyed by any means but is always generated (or
produced):
Entropy is associated with thermal energy-heat and is generated when heat is
generated or irreversibly transferred, otherwise, entropy is transferred and
conserved in reversible processes, including reversible heat transfer (at
infinitesimally small temperature difference).
Even when heat is reduced by conversion to work, entropy cannot be
destroyed
(reduced)
but is conserved in ideal Carnot and reversible heat engine cycles, and
generated during any irreversibility (conversion of any work potential to
heat). The entropy transfer is equal to reversible heat transfer per
absolute temperature since work transfer is not associated with entropy
(e.g., reversible compression/expansion);
thus,
entropy is conserved during reversible processes of any kind, generated due
to irreversibility of any kind, and
cannot be destroyed by any process,
since the latter will imply spontaneous generation of non-equilibrium,
including from within equilibrium, thus against the spontaneous forcing. [dS=dS_{tr}+dS_{gen}=dQ_{rev}/T_{b}
+ dW_{loss}/T_{diss}
] |
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